Tell us about your part in the Natura Dentata exhibition.
Martin: We are the only ones doing a whole new piece specifically for this show, and it has become a bunch of movies. We have named our part of the exhibition Kaamos, which is a Finnish word that deals with the darkest time before it turns. When the polar night is at its darkest, before it gets bright again. It's beautiful if you put it in perspective of the world right now. We will project our movies on the walls and on the floor in one of the rooms.
Your artistic expression often tends to be very dark, what makes you drawn to this darkness?
Martin: It's more beautiful. What do you think Thomas?
Thomas: This is because things die, the idea of that cycle is always present in everything we do. We have been working together for a long time, so this theme is something we have always worked with, the cycle, decay and composting. But the fungi and nature are something that comes a lot from you, the idea of end of life.
Martin: We always work with nature, and investigate when it's not nice, as it's actually not. We filmed in a burnt down forest as well. I searched for the last forest that burned and then we went there.
This burnt down plays on a theme about natural disasters. Was there a thought about portraying it?
Martin: It happened unconsciously. The burnt attracted us because even if it's a disaster, it's also a type of purification. Things are cleansed to become something new.
Thomas: It's about that evil brings something good too. The whole exhibition is about that nature is not always only good.
It is also about the relationship of fashion with nature, but your models are naked. Why did you choose not to cloth them?
Martin: I think it's nice that we have scaled it to be a raw essence of what we've been doing for ten years. In part, it was a good idea that it was nice with some bums, but also because it feels a bit clumsy to do costumes when working on this kind of concept. It's more beautiful without, but then again I have put them in printed fabrics.
Thomas: You can really see that they are naked during the group scene of the movie. In a way, it may be a rebirth, but I think it's more likely that they are almost on their way into the underworld. That they reach out of hell and want to get away from there.
Martin, you have also had a very strong interest in natural science before and have been aspiring to become a natural scientist.
Martin: Yes, and I am somehow. I like to nerd in, I knew all the flowers of the north when I was three years old. This has been a fascination all my life.
Thomas: For me, my relationship with nature comes from the fact that half of my family is Sami, so during my upbringing, until I was a teenager we were up there with them. We were always in the nature. That kind of wild nature has always been with me but I hadn't worked with it before I met Martin.
Do you always associate nature with something dark?
Thomas: For example, I'm not afraid ot the dark. If I'm up in Norrland and you have to get up and pee in the middle of the night in the middle of the forest, I think the darkness is a lovely thing. Then I embrace the darkness. There is something with the dark which is beautiful, maybe it's the mysticism. And it's not just about nature for me. The happy may not be the biggest source of inspiration.
Martin: We, as humans, can talk about it being scary too, but we are the ones who have made nature dangerous. We have destroyed so much. 40 percent of the earth's species have died in the last two hundred years, we have in some way caused the nature to become dangerous. It is our responsibility to fix it.